Q: Do you know who came up with the idea for Thor? '"[20] Under Lee's plotting, Lieber's eight Thor stories also introduced the Marvel characters Loki, Odin, and Balder, from the pantheon of Norse mythological gods; their home, Asgard; and Bifrost the Rainbow Bridge, which connected that realm to Earth. Change this or change that.". Read more. Family Brother . His first feature film was Thor: Ragnarok (2017). Well, wait a minute. He was putting out color comics, and he was also going to put out black-and-white comics like Warren and Marvel. I did not get paid as much as Stan, you know, his rate. [27][28] Lieber said Lee gave a rare compliment on the Hulk strip, telling his brother, "[I]t's very good. Since I knew how to draw, I'd think, 'Oh, this shot will have a guy coming this way this shot will have a guy looking down on him,' and later I'd sit at the typewriter and type it up. I think he went out to Hollywood or out to California and that's when Jim Shooter came in [as Marvel editor-in-chief] and took over. [11], In 1978, Lieber began penciling and sometimes inking the new daily and Sunday comic strip The Incredible Hulk,[29] written by Lee and syndicated by the Register and Tribune Syndicate. LARRY LIEBER: No. [8] His first superhero work, the first appearance of Marvel's Thor in Journey into Mystery #83 (Aug. 1962), introduced one of the mainstays of the Marvel Universe, the mystical metal "uru", of which Thor's hammer Mjolnir is made. LARRY LIEBER: I think I probably in the back of Miriam Webster somewhere there was somebody Pym. Were the scripts that you wrote for Iron Man, Ant-Man and Thor, were those Marvel style? LARRY LIEBER: Uh-huh. Larry D. Lieber [1] (born October 26, 1931) [2] is an American comic book artist and writer, and the younger brother of Marvel Comics' writer, editor and publisher Stan Lee. LARRY LIEBER is one of the more overlooked, underrated and as such forgotten men from the Silver Age of Marvel comics. And now this is the part where I ask you same thing he asked you: If you can just give a pause so if I have to jump in with an objection. LARRY LIEBER: In those days, yes. Marvel legend Stan Lee rightfully gets credit when discussing the most important creators at Marvel, alongside Steve Ditko, Joe Simon Jack Kirby, and others. Lieber is now 89 years old and worked on the earliest comics versions of Thor, Iron Man, and . Q: And what would happen next? Larry Lieb is a nationally known subject matter expert in the field of computer forensics and electronic discovery. Being the son of a Hell-Lord, Daimon Hellstrom became a Lord of Hell himself, drawing power from the Hell dimension. It was always check. I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. Q: And just to follow up on something you said, you mentioned a letterer, what was the job of the letterer? Edward L. K There's an incredible amount of material here so what I'm going to do is break down and excerpt stuff that jumps out at me. Q: Who would make the decision about who was going to write the scripts for a book? It had been written, yeah, before me by Stan and Jack Kirby. I remember once, and I dont know when it was, but my uncle, Rob Solomon, took me down to Timely Comics.". Did you have any involvement in The Rawhide Kid? Larry Lieber is the author of Captain Britain (3.48 avg rating, 46 ratings, 13 reviews, published 2011), Tales to Astonish #13 (3.31 avg rating, 29 ratin. Jack Lieber (father) (L-R) Stan, Jack, Larry and Celia. LARRY LIEBER: That I did freelance work for them? Q: I'm sorry, the "he" in that was Stan Lee? When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx, settling at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee . I was worrying about somebody else's feeling, and I figured, well, if I make it U-R-U, there's not that much to letter. Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. Discover your ancestry - search Birth, Marriage and Death certificates, census records, immigration lists and other records - all in one family search! LARRY LIEBER: Well, my brother made up the plot and gave me a synopsis. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, I I remember I went with Stan and I bought it once. [11], In 1951, he enlisted[8] with the U.S. Air Force, beginning four years of military service. LARRY LIEBER: About then, yeah. LARRY LIEBER: I would imagine it's a statement of some kind that you sign or you write. [6] Lee elsewhere described that move to a two-story, three-bedroom home at 1084 West Broadway as occurring in 1949,[7] when Larry would have been 17 or 18. Changes in not in the basic story or anything, because I knew how to tell a story as well as anybody, I think, in terms of sequentially and what to draw, what to tell the artist. Q: Now, again, during the period 1958 to '65, where were you living at the time? Stan said, 'I'm trying to make up a character,' and he gave me the plot, and he said, 'Why don't you write the story? From his 2010 deposition: 17 (break in testimony) LARRY LIEBER: Well, this must have been a Hulk story and I have the originals at home. So I couldn't do that, I couldn't work. LARRY LIEBER: and I made it up." The artist made the change after a reader complained the cut was too old-fashioned. Anthony Stark. Q: Did you see any artwork on Thor before you wrote the script? LARRY LIEBER: They had about three stories in the magazine, drawn by different people. I believe I did. I know there were artists who work for other companies. He remembered writers from the past. I don't know where the hell I came up with it. Lieber Married Celia Solomon May 5th, 1920; Manhattan, NY NY Marriage Cert # 013005 Residence records include: ===== 510 Brinley Ave, Apt 10 Beadley Beach, NJ (1955) Father of: ===== Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee . I didn't speak to him. (Lieber Exhibit 6, an excerpt from Jack Kirby Collector Forty-One, marked for identification, as of this date.). Right here at FameChain. LARRY LIEBER: I just made it up, as far as I know. Q: Do you know of other, any other writers or artists who are working freelance, on a freelance basis with Marvel, who at that time were also submitting freelance work to other comic book publishers? Loving father of Taylor. I don't recall. I I wrote a few books, the first issue or the first couple issues, yes. Q: The "he" when you said "he"? LARRY LIEBER: The same way as the other. They had one son: Stanley Martin Lieber. Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. I was working during the day and I went to [the Pratt Institute art school, in Brooklyn, in] the evening. They could go from one to another, and some of the artists would actually play, you know, one company against another in the sense of saying, "Oh, I've been offered more money there," so if the art director wanted to keep him, he had to, you know, give him give him a little more. Early life. I had a certain page rate, which I don't recall exactly. Born in New York City in 1931, Lieber studied art at the Pratt Art Institute and the Art . Son of Jacob Aaron Lieber and Celia (Solomon) Lieber. (break in testimony) Q: Did you ever work on did you ever get artwork that you would then write the dialogue for, or did you always write the script first? LARRY LIEBER: Stan. My the reason I remember is that I was worried about paying my rent, and I wondered, if he doesn't like this, how often do I have to keep redoing this plot. As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? Stan Lee Children. LARRY LIEBER: Oh, no. Q: When is the first time you heard the phrase "work made for hire," if any? Larry Lieber. I just remember people saying sometimes, "Oh, you just missed Milly," and if you missed Milly when she was handing out the checks, then you went to bookkeeping and went over to Milly and she opened her drawer and said, "Here's your check." Other people know, and if I had the book, I could tell you. '"[20] Under Lee's plotting, Lieber's eight Thor stories also introduced the Marvel characters Loki, Odin, and Balder, from the pantheon of Norse mythological gods; their home, Asgard; and Bifrost the Rainbow Bridge, which connected that realm to Earth. Q: You can answer. What I didn't prefer was the style that was developing. Jay Lieber, beloved husband of Judy. For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. LARRY LIEBER: I believe it was Jack Kirby. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? "[13] In 1958, following an economic downturn for the publisher and the firing of virtually all the comics staffers save Lee, "Stan said he wanted somebody to help him write, and he had nobody then; he was doing it all himself. For roughly a year-and-a-half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. So I went back home and I did so, and I came back and I think either he didn't like it a second time or he accepted it, but there was another story that he made me redo again. LARRY LIEBER: Well, either I sent it to the person. [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was 15, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. LARRY LIEBER: No. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. His wife Joan, to whom he'd been married since 1949 . LARRY LIEBER: No. 26 October 1931. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. No, I I, no, it it came when Jack moved on to doing super-heroes. MS. SINGER: Good work. Q: Did Marvel provide you with any health insurance or health benefits during the time you worked there? But writing was a little different. Q: Okay. 3: Randy's New Obsession? LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: I sent it to the artist who yeah. Q: When was that? Yes, sure. Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Celia (Solomon) and Jack Lieber, and the brother of the nearly nine years older Stanley Martin Lieber, later best known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. I don't know where the hell I came up with it. I never had to, you know, go home and do it again. It would be Stan Lee and the artist. No. Synopsis. Indexer Notes. [18] I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. LARRY LIEBER: No, not that I recall. I'm supposed to object before you answer. Also I think its even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". Erwin Lieber and Margaret Elizabeth (Taylor) Lieber. No. And I took them home and I taped them together, you know, I taped them all, and I kept them and I've kept them all these years to look at them and, as I say, to study them. 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