Its way down on the bottom. In the film inspired by true events, Hudgens character forms an unlikely partnership with Alaska State Trooper, Sgt. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. Be sure and look at all six. We just want her to be identified.'. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. So its early in the morning Required fields are marked *. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. Handle was brown. In this installment, Cindy talks about being handcuffed by Robert Hansen at gunpoint and identifies his handgun. Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. CINDY: Uh huh. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. The security guard at that time The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. See how my sights are painted with an orange I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? He remains active in the markets. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. FLOTHE: Did he give you change? "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. CINDY: Yep. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. FLOTHE: OK. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. (crying) Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. Every time it was in my face. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. We all have the same needs. Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. CINDY: OK. You can listen to the podcast of this interview here. He seemed really like a pretty good guy. And he had called me and I slept through it. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. So he shows up Sunday night, then. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. CINDY: Uh huh. [Installment Three]. What was your reaction when you first read the script? FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? CINDY: Well, I didnt. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. CINDY: On Fourth and Denali. You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. Cindy coughs.) FLOTHE: So he takes you to the house. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. Glenn Flothe, AST. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Hudgens: Thats always been the goal. FLOTHE: Um hmm. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. CINDY (cont. CINDY: It was a black Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. FLOTHE: In your face? FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? And he contacts you. He never learned her real name, he said. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. Its a over shirt. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. FLOTHE: OK. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Did you know the street name? Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. CINDY: Uh huh. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, CINDY: Um I think it was around six. View the profiles of people named Cindy Paulson. Just him by himself. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? What did you learn from them? How was the directing process with Scott Walker? Thats not all he said, of course. He was right to worry, state officials later said. Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walker's suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. For only $3 you can help this site stay up and running! You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. How fitting! CINDY: Regular Just working boots. And he suggested that we could go to his place. FLOTHE: OK. Cindy Paulson was just 17 years old when she moved to Anchorage Alaska. The FBI had been spot on about everything. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. We recently landed an exclusive interview with Hudgens who talked about her reaction when she first read the script, how meeting the real Cindy Paulson helped inform her portrayal of the character, why it was important to her that audiences see Paulson as a real human being and not a stereotype, what she learned from working with experienced actors like Cage and Cusack who inspired her performance, how Walkers enthusiasm and energy kept the atmosphere on set upbeat despite the dark subject matter, and what she discovered about herself in the process of making the film. Sadly in a roundabout way Robert brought upon his own two children the same thing which had traumatized him, his kids were bullied mercilessly for their fathers evil acts. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? If hed just murdered those women, they couldnt have turned him in, and he wouldnt have been in trouble not committing violent crimes was never an option. People either loved it or they hated it. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. Together they entertained colleagues at their home. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. CINDY: It wasnt painted. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. CINDY: Yeah. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. We all have the same needs. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? CINDY: Uh huh. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. CINDY: The same person. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. And do what he pleased with her. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Required fields are marked *. Cindy Paulson was Neighborhood All-Star on July 14. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. CINDY: Same. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Your email address will not be published. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. Dont worry. FLOTHE: Did he approach you or did you approach him? The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. FLOTHE: Friday morning. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? Hudgens: That was great. And hes short. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. CINDY: No. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. She left the ADN in October 2018. CINDY: Yep. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. I wanted everyone to see that were all the same. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. The one person who really seemed to have believed Cindy and became determined to stop this killer was a state trooper by the name of Glenn Flothe. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. RH: Yes. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. Im not going to help you do that, all right? That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. CINDY: Like a new Seville. CINDY: The Buick Century. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? I just want to do everything. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: And then you overslept and consequently didnt meet him. FLOTHE: Youre trying to get out? Purchase Butcher, Baker, Your email address will not be published. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. Even though we were filming something that was so heavy and tough to come to work for every day, he had this enthusiasm and energy about him that was just so upbeat and lighthearted, so that even though it was serious, you felt excited and safe. Im not correct on the times, OK? Flothe said. All rights reserved. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Only a dozen bodies were located. Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. He was 75 years old. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. This led to her becoming known by many as 'Horseshoe Harriet' within the state's medical examiner's office. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. Apparently youre bothered by this? No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. CINDY: Right around Fourth and Denali. He pulled over and I recognized him immediately. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. Hes got like frog warts on his face. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? FLOTHE: OK. Its been some time since you last talked to him, in fact, its been quite some time. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. Like a station wagon. In a police interview after Paulson's escape, she told him she got the feeling other people may live in the house. What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. I was surprised that I could do it and then go home and be able to feel removed from it. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde The security guard had came up I dont know if I was in the back laying down when he [the security guard] did. CINDY: Um hmm. The Butcher Baker Minisode. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? (pause) FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 (pause) How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. Ducks and birds. To the left is the basement. CINDY: Yep. It left me wanting to watch it over and over again even though Im in it. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. or debate this issue live on our message boards. 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